Example Determining PCB Material Properties: Q2D and Nexxim to HFSS

This section describes the procedure for determining the PCB material properties that will be used for an HFSS simulation of a PCB.

Beatty Structure

Fixture is a coaxial connector with a via transition down to the stripline.

Model of fixtures and device under testing.

Note: The Full structure is simulated in HFSS. It is called “Measured” to illustrate that this will typically be measured data

Look at 2X Thru S-parameters. There is a Good response until ~35 GHz.

S parameter plot.

De-embed in Nexxim

AEDT window showing N-port data dialog and device under testing diagram in the modeler window.

De-embedded Results in Nexxim. We clearly see the resonances

Results plot.

Q2D Model

Now make Q2D model of the transmission lines and perform circuit simulations with Nexxim

Fully Parameterized so we can optimize response to extract material properties.

Fix the following because they were measured:

Q3D substrate model.

Nexxim with Q2D Model

Run the Q2D model in Nexxim with the following to compare to our measured results.

Model diagram of fixtures and device under testing.

Nexxim Model Results

Notice the Q2D model does not match

Nexxim model results for S11

Nexxim model results for S21

In Nexxim, you need to make εr lower so that the maxima/minima are further apart

Nexxim Model with Changed εr

Use Optimetrics to automatically sweep εr. Notice εr =3.48 is best.

Nexxim model results for S11

Nexxim model results for S21

Now look at DC Resistance

Nexxim Model, Changing Conductivity

Use Optimetrics to automatically sweep Conductivity.

Notice is closest 5.0x107 S/m. This has very little impact on results.

Conductivity (S/m)DC Resistance (Ω)Measured Resistance (Ω)
5.0x1070.070643 0.070691
5.1x1070.070241  
5.2x1070.069855  
5.3x1070.069483  
5.4x1070.069125  
5.5x1070.068780  
5.6x1070.068448  
5.7x1070.068127  
5.8x1070.067817  
5.9x1070.097518  
5.10x1070.067228  
Observations So Far

Nexxim model results for S11

Nexxim model results for S21

Change Loss Tangent

Use Optimetrics to automatically sweep Loss Tangent.

Loss Tangent = 0.008 appears to be best fit at high frequency.

Nexxim model results for S11

Nexxim model results for S11

Final Values from Nexxim and Q2D

The final tuning gives:

You can use Optimizer to match S-parameters as well. The goal of this example is show how each parameter changes the response in order to build your intuition in using them.

Compare HFSS Simulation with Extracted Parameters

Nexxim model results for S11 and S21

Final Tuning Values
Summary of the Method for using Nexxim and Q2D to Determine PCB Parameters for HFSS